News Release
Women’s Ordination Symposium: History, Issues and Implications
Live from Fresno, CA on October 1-4, 2014:
You are cordially invited to join us for the live streaming of “Women’s Ordination: History, Issues and Implications” live from Fresno, California.
The purpose of the symposium is to share, as far as possible, the Biblical foundation for male servant-leadership (‘headship’) in both the home and the church, and the reasons from both Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy as to why women should not be ordained either to the gospel ministry or to the office of local church elder. The symposium will also highlight the value and roles of women in ministry and outline ways in which men and women can work together, within appropriate Biblical roles, to execute the spiritual and evangelistic mission of the great Advent movement. This symposium will consist of 12 plenary sessions, three panel discussions and a concluding two-hour town hall meeting on Saturday evening. All meetings except for Sabbath morning will be held at the Secrets Unsealed facility. The Sabbath morning meetings will be held at the Fresno Central SDA Church on 2980 E. Yale Ave., Fresno.
All other meetings will be held at the Secrets Unsealed studio.
Symposium Participants: Stephen Bohr, Laurel Damsteegt, Mario Veloso, John Peters, Ingo Sorke, Eugene Prewitt, Don Mackintosh, Jim Howard, Daniel Mesa, Dojcin Zivadinovic, Phil Mills, Isaac Olatunji, Julie Mesa, Raymond Holmes, and Kevin Paulson.
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Category: Gender
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Biblical Interpretation Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Doctrine of the Church Doctrine of Unity Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio Headship Male-sex specific roles Ordination Without Regard to Gender position three Seventh-day Adventist Church Theological pluralism Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) TOSC position one
Women's Ordination: Group #1 review of position Summary #3
We offer here the link to a detailed new analysis prepared by Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) group #1 of the position summary of TOSC group #3. We find this 23 page pdf file to have remarkably useful clarifying content, helping the reader better understand both the group #3 and the group #1 positions.
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1 Corinthians 1 Timothy Acts CAP authors Church governance Columbia Union Conference (CUC) Congregationalism Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Culturally driven Doctrine of the Church Doctrine of Unity Ecclesiastical authority Ephesians Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio Insubordination Jim Brackett Netherlands Union North American Division (NAD) Ordination Without Regard to Gender OrdinationTruth.com Pacific Union Conference (PUC) Political correctness Polity Romans SECC constituency meeting Seventh-day Adventist Church Submission Theological pluralism Trans-European Division (TED) Unilateral Action Unity Wayne Kablanow Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
Women's ordination and congregationalism
Prs. Wayne Kablanow and Jim Brackett discuss women’s ordination. Is WO as we have seen its proponents attempting to introduce it to the church today, actually congregationalism just at a larger scale? Is letting each division decide independently in essence the same as letting each congregation decide independently? Kablanow and Brackett work their way into the topic carefully in this extended study. Unity in diversity is discussed. The core biblical components of unity are uncovered. 32 minutes. Pr. Kablanow is a successful church planter, presently serving West Plains in Airway Heights and also the Spokane North View churches.
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Biblical Interpretation Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Cultural reconstructions Culturally driven Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio Ordination Without Regard to Gender OrdinationTruth.com Polity position three Seventh-day Adventist Church Stephen Bohr Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
Response to 'third position' video
Pr. Stephen Bohr of Secrets Unsealed Ministry responds point-by-point to the “hand-drawn”-style video presented by advocates of the “third way” position. (The third position arose at the end of the Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) process. It differs from “position 2” only in that it admits that “male leadership” is God’s ideal. However, this supposed recognition is meaningless since postion three, like position two, would allow each division of the world church to decide independently for itself whether or not to ordain women.)
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Biblical Interpretation Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Cultural reconstructions Culturally driven Daniel Scarone Distinct roles Equality Feminist Theology Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio Headship Historical-grammatical method Mainstream Feminist Theology Male-sex specific roles Ordination Without Regard to Gender OrdinationTruth.com Principle-based Historical-cultural Method Seventh-day Adventist Church Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
Es la Biblia la que nos da las orientaciones, no la cultura
Daniel Scarone, miembro del TOSC (Comisión de Teología sobre Ordenación), argumenta sobre la hermenéutica, el “argumento del silencio,” la ordenación femenina al ministerio y la influencia de la cultura.
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3ABN 3ABN WO Survey results Biblical Interpretation Consensus Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Danny Shelton Doug Batchelor Gender Homosexuality Jay Gallimore Jim Gilley Male-sex specific roles Ordination Without Regard to Gender OrdinationTruth.com Seventh-day Adventist Church Stephen Bohr Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
3ABN WO discussion: Doug Batchelor, Stephen Bohr, Jim Gilley, Jay Gallimore
3ABN Night Light Women’s Ordination Discussion, featuring pastors Doug Batchelor, Stephen Bohr, Jay Gallimore. The program was recorded at ASI. Includes discussion of Scripture evidence and of the surprising results of the survey conducted. There is a brief musical presentation near the beginning, and afterwards the main program continues. At 16 minutes in the 3ABN WO poll sample and process is explained. Doug Batchelor kicks off the main discussion 28 minutes in. Doug Batchelor is the senior pastor of the Granite Bay Church near Sacramento. Stephen Bohr is senior pastor of the Fresno Church. Jay Gallimore is the president of the Michigan Conference. The hosts are pastor Jim Gilley, president of Three Angel’s Broadcasting Network (3ABN) and Danny Shelton, a founder of 3ABN. Full Program.
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Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Cultural reconstructions Culturally driven Doctrine of Unity Don Mackintosh Ellen G. White Exceeding the evidence Feminist Theology Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio New light Ordination Without Regard to Gender OrdinationTruth.com Second Wave Feminist Theology Seventh-day Adventist Church Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) Unity Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
WO: helping or hindering unity?
Don Mackintosh considers claims that women’s ordination came as new light to the Seventh-day Adventist Church 40 years ago and that in rejecting it, we are hindering the Second Coming. Pastor Mackintosh reviews the history and sees whether this is so. Is the push for women’s ordination helping us advance toward the Second Coming, or actually hindering us? Is the pro-women’s ordination movement helping or hindering the church toward unity? Pr. Don Mackintosh served on the General Conference Theology of Ordination Study Committee.
Survey launched on 2014-08-07. Answer receiving the most ballots is bolded… See update information at bottom of posting.
QUESTION 1: Do you believe that the Scriptures teach only men should be ordained as pastors?
Yes: 75.22% (2939 ballots)
No: 24.78% (968 ballots)
Total answering: 3907
QUESTION 2: Do you believe that the Scriptures teach women should be ordained elders?
Yes: 18.38% (713 ballots)
No: 81.62% (3167 ballots)
Total answering: 3880
QUESTION 3: Do you believe the Adventist Church needs to create more paid ministry opportunities for women aside from the ordination question?
Yes: 68.56% (2656 ballots)
No: 31.44% (1218 ballots)
Total answering: 3874
QUESTION 4: Do you believe if women’s ordination is approved it will make it easier for same-sex marriage advocates to agitate for acceptance within the church?
Yes: 68.66% (2682 ballots)
No: 31.34% (1224 ballots)
Total answering: 3906
QUESTION 5: Do you believe the women’s ordination issue should be conclusively settled at the next General Conference meeting and whatever is voted should be unitedly followed by the world church?
Yes: 52.59% (2018 ballots)
No: 47.41% (1819 ballots)
Total answering: 3887
QUESTION 6: Do you believe each SDA world division or conference should be allowed to determine the women’s ordination issue independently?
Yes: 21.04% (819 ballots)
No: 78.96% (3073 ballots)
Total answering: 3892
QUESTION 7: Do you believe the women’s ordination issue may lead to a division within the Adventist Church?
Yes: 82.68% (3228 ballots)
No: 17.32% (676 ballots)
Total answering: 3904
QUESTION 8: Are you a denominational employee?
Yes: 13.10% (511 ballots)
No: 86.90% (3391 ballots)
Total answering: 3902
QUESTION 9: Do you reside in the North American Division?
Yes: 70.97% (2785 ballots)
No: 29.03% (1139 ballots)
Total answering: 3924
QUESTION 10: Are you male or female?
Female: 51.10% (1969 ballots)
Male: 48.90% (1884 ballots)
Total answering: 3853
QUESTION 11: What is your age range?
18 to 30: 18.96% (747 ballots)
30 to 55: 53.26% (2098 ballots)
55 and up: 27.77% (1094 ballots)
Total answering: 3939
NOTE: Survey results were updated August 25, 9:33 am PST. You can participate in the survey by calling 800-272-1280, or, readers can participate in the survey via the internet at http://www.ordinationsurvey.com.
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1 Timothy Biblical Interpretation Council of Adventist Pastors (CAP) Distinct roles Gender General Conference Session 2015 San Antonio Headship Larry Kirkpatrick Male-sex specific roles Mike Lambert Ordination Without Regard to Gender Seventh-day Adventist Church Theology of Ordination Study Committee (TOSC) Women in Ministry Women's Ordination
TOSC position 2 problems
Pastors Larry Kirkpatrick and Mike Lambert discuss TOSC outcomes. One group within TOSC, the “Position 2” group wants the church to permit individual divisions to make their own separate decisions about women’s ordination. The immediate result would be that some parts of the church would ordain women as pastors/elders, others not. In the TOSC Position 2 paper, WO advocates declared that the problems Paul is addressing in 1 Timothy were intended to deal with only local issues. The pastors zero-in on chapter two looking at the passage in the Greek NT, and the reason Paul DOES give for the general, universal prohibition against women exercising authority over men in a congregational setting.
August 7, on 3ABN TV, Pr. Doug Batchelor will be part of a panel discussion with pastors Stephen Bohr and Jim Gilley, that will be broadcasting live from the national ASI convention. During this special program they will be exploring the current position of the church concerning the ordination of women to the gospel ministry. This program will air live from 8:00-10:00 p.m. CDT. (6:00 – 8:00 Pacific Time for West coasters). They will be taking some text questions.
You can also watch online at http://3abn.org/media/3abn-broadcast/.
UPDATED: This event has been scheduled to be broadcast again on Sunday, August 10, 1:00-3:00 pm. PST.